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Feminism by AmbrMerlinus Feminism by AmbrMerlinus
CRITIQUE DISCOURAGED because I think my politics are showing.
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deltahalo241 Featured By Owner Nov 15, 2014
I'm not sure if this is mocking feminism or siding with it.
LoudestWhispers Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2014
I know that's what feminism technically means but I see too many feminists hate on guys or refuse to acknowledge the sexism they endure also. (yes, there is sexism towards guys) . Honestly, I just rather be labeled a humanist if anything. (though I'm not a huge fan of labels to begin with) I ain't trying to start a flame war here, I swear. Just stating my personal opinion.
this is just plain wrong..."oh you believe in equality? then you are a feminist! what is that? you oppose feminism? then by definition you hate women! you should be hated by every woman on this planet for the sin of being male!" i am a humanist not a fucking feminist. thank you very much. 
Ouroboros-491 Featured By Owner Nov 1, 2014
If you are pro-equality between genders, then you are a feminist. A feminist does not mean that you believe in affirmative action, male privilege or rape culture (Although those things do exist, and if you think they mean that feminists hate men you should really do some research)
TheGuyWhoReviewGames Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2014
oh god i have heard this millions of times now. it is not what you think it is. no i am not a feminist just because of me being pro equality. and none of the things you have said is real. 
Ouroboros-491 Featured By Owner Nov 5, 2014
Oh, this is going to be fun.
What is not what I think it is? And what isn't real?
I don't see why you have a problem with this, Feminism is the belief that women and men should be equal. More specifically it's the acknowledgment that have less freedom then men, culturally and financially. And it's the support of steps to resolve this disparity. 
So, question time. What are you?
Are you;
A) A supporter of men's rights that is interested in combating the many problems men face in the world, and is willing to work with feminists to change this unfortunate situation?
B) A misguided MRA who sees feminism as an opponent and roadblock to male freedom, more interested in winning internet arguments and satisfying your persecution complex than helping men?
C) A MGtOW who believes that female emancipation has turned women into hypergamous harlots? 
D) A PUA who views women as objects, and opposes feminism as it gives women a chance to exist outside the patriarchy?
E) An Incel who has been turned down too many times and now hates the world?
F) An Endarkenment Masculine type?
Thanks for responding, by the way. I was hoping for a homophobe or racist, but manospherians work just as well. You don't have any other reactionary beliefs either do you? I need some for FSTDT. 
TheGuyWhoReviewGames Featured By Owner Nov 6, 2014
you seem to think that because you believe in equality there should be no reason to oppose the only problem is that the actions speak louder than words and sometimes the words speak louder than your central belief system. i have made videos on some of the stupidest things that feminist have said though out history such as the wage gap argument which has been debunked time and time again and yet feminist still bring it up. why? because they wont learn! objectification of women?  it seems that it only women who can be objectified and not men. not to mention that everyone is objectified everyday. you go on youtube you are objectified as nothing more as entertainment.

i don't fit in any of those i guess somehow in your little pea brain of yours i must fit in on of those in order to oppose feminism. i am a anti feminist and a proud one at that. 
Ouroboros-491 Featured By Owner Nov 7, 2014
Exactly! Men are objectified as well as women! Regardless of privilege and position, every person in a group is subjected to injustices resulting from people acting on their presuppositions rather than that persons personality. A person could debate the different levels of oppression (I don't think that you could say that a white, middle class straight man has the same amount of oppression as a Hispanic lesbian), but the important thing is that we recognize that all groups are oppressed by presumption.
Considering that, that both men and women are oppressed, we can conclude that the best course of action is to have people who have experience with this oppression to work towards removing it. So men work on men's problems (MRA) and women work on Women's problems (Feminism).
TheGuyWhoReviewGames Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2014
the problem is that feminist are going at the MRA throats like a bunch of wild coyotes. and plus feminist feel the need that feminism is the most important thing that everyone needs but then not do anything to help people that do need help outside of women. 

also being objectified is not a bad thing. everyone is objectified to a certain extend and yes that includes you. you objectified every show that you have watched and every game you ever played. 
Ouroboros-491 Featured By Owner Nov 8, 2014
Feminism is about helping women. It sounds harsh to say it, but feminism is and should be concerned with advocating rights for women before men. Not that men haven't benefited hugely off feminism.
It's MRA's job to help men. And MRAdom is notoriously bad at helping anyone. Indeed, many MRA's spend more time talking about feminism and "Women going too far" then men's problems. I once asked why do MRA's do so little advocating men's rights, and the man I was talking to said that he didn't know enough about it!
Which all highlights this important point, MRA is not a ideology like civil rights or feminism. Its a reactionary movement by people who think that it all started going downhill when women got the vote, who have used buzzwords and the cerebral nature of feminism to hijack the opinions of people like you, concerned, well meaning folks who want some attention given to the abuses towards men.
If your movement ever creates something that helps men rather than accusing feminism, if MRA can grow up and admit that its not evil Anita Sarkeesian plotting to kill all men, I can guarantee that feminist will be right behind it.  
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